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National Catholic Register Does What It Does Best

09 Wednesday Feb 2022

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That is, to tiptoe around the elephant in the room and sort-of try to be Catholic without offending any modernists or actually addressing the cause of the problem.

The Register cites that the interpretation of Traditiones Custodes by the Roche in the dubious dubia (tm Fr. Z) might be problematic in its legality due to process concerns……..yawn.

Sorry, I nodded off a bit there. I’m back now. Let me respond to the Register:

ANTIPOPE.

ANTI.

POPE.

ANTIPOPE!!!

Could an antipope EVER have the authority to limit, let alone abrogate, THE MASS?

The elephant. There he is. Isn’t it worth al least a very thorough investigation?

When will anyone DO anything?

God Bless the Institute

06 Sunday Feb 2022

Posted by thetimman in the Institute, The Timless Roman Rite— the Real One

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Veritatem Facientes in Caritate

Traditional Mass as usual in Chicago this first Sunday of February.

May Christ the King and His holy Mother continue to protect and guide and strengthen them!

Sunday is the Day in Chicago

04 Friday Feb 2022

Posted by thetimman in General Catholic News/Opinion, Our Lady, pope v. antipope, the Mass and other Liturgy, the real, The Timless Roman Rite— the Real One

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If you live in Chicago, go to your local Traditional Latin Mass. Cardinal Cupich has no authority to prohibit a priest from celebrating it, nor a layman from assisting at it. None. Not on the first Sunday of the Month, the Third Sunday, the Tenth Sunday or any other day.

Go to Mass. If you can, there is also a Rosary Rally at 11am in front of Holy Name Cathedral.

If you don’t live in Chicago, consider going to the traditional Mass in Chicago in solidarity with the beleaguered Catholics there.

Because it all starts this Sunday. The ICRSP, FSSP, IBP and other groups are on the clock. If they stand firm for Christ and His Holy Sacraments in the rites handed down by our forefathers– rites protected by Papal Bull and immemorial custom under principles of canon law– they will have won. Or at least begun to win. Why?

Because either Cardinal Cupich will 1) purport to punish them; or, 2) he wont.

Any such punishments arising from the former would be void, being themselves invalid and illegal. And after that, there really isn’t anything else he could do. Problem solved. Sure, there may be a number of very inconvenient, practical problems. But the law and the Faith and the Church, and most importantly, Christ Himself, are on the side of the Mass. We need to be prepared to go all the way to Calvary with Our Lord to defend the Mass. What is the Mass anyway, but Calvary?

And if no punishment follows, then the tyrant is defeated straightway.

Priests, you have the right to the Mass. Faithful, you have the right to the Mass. All of us have the duty to defend it. Stand!

May Our Lady protect us all in the times to come!

Cardinal Burke, You Testified that God “saved me for some work now that He has for me to do.”

24 Monday Jan 2022

Posted by thetimman in General Catholic News/Opinion, Our Lady, papacy, the Mass and other Liturgy, the real, The Timless Roman Rite— the Real One, unto sanctification

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You spoke rightly. may Our Lady and Her Son Be with you and strengthen you to do that work.

Traditional Confirmations Canceled in England and Wales

Cruelties in Chicago in the unjust effort of Cardinal Cupich to kill the Mass

Statement of Cardinal Burke on Traditionis Custodes

Oh, and the seemingly unrelated matter of the suspicious hit job on Pope Benedict XVI coming out of Germany

We Are Approaching Our Lefebvre Moment— But Not the One You Think

22 Saturday Jan 2022

Posted by thetimman in General Catholic News/Opinion, pope v. antipope, rooty tooty instituty, the Institute, the Mass and other Liturgy, the real, The Timless Roman Rite— the Real One, Uncategorized

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In 1988, despite having failed to secure papal authorization to consecrate new bishops for his priestly society, an aged Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre defied the the threat of excommunication and consecrated 5 bishops— 4 for the SSPX, and 1 for the Diocese of Campos, Brazil. As a result he and the other bishops were all excommunicated. Or not. The SSPX argued against the validity of the excommunication decree until Pope Benedict XVI declared them void (possibly ab initio) prior to issuing Summorum Pontificum. [As an aside, please note the way a truly humble pope brings peace to a contentious situation. The way Pope Bendict phrased the ‘lifting’ of the excommunication decree, he left room for the interpretation that it never really was valid at all, thus allowing all parties who acted in good faith in 1988 to save face.]

Though I have always understood the SSPX’s position on why they thought the Lefebvre excommunication was invalid, and while I believe their position was held in good faith, I admit that it sometimes wearied me whenever an SSPX attendee would go on about how Lefebvre saved the Traditional Mass by consecrating the bishops, ensuring the SSPX would continue to have priests. I recall many conversations where I simply posed the question, “What better good might not have come from obedience? We’ll never know.”

As it turns out, the claim that Lefebvre saved the traditional Mass (which retains its obvious merit) makes way more sense to me now. Not because of 1988. But because of 1976. Wait, 1976, you ask? Let me explain.

The issue involved the ability of a bishop of the Catholic Church being able to ordain priests in an approved Catholic rite of priestly ordination. The traditional Mass had not been abrogated, nor had the rite of priestly ordination. But Pope Paul VI forbade Lefebvre from ordaining the priests in the traditional rite. He didn’t forbid their ordinations, but just the use of the traditional rite of ordination.

Does this sound familiar?

Archbishop Lefebvre judged that he had the right to ordain these priests in the traditional manner. As Pope Benedict confirmed in Summorum Pontificum, he did indeed. But Pope Paul VI declared him and his priests suspended a divinis. Because he judged he was in the right legally and morally, Archbishop Lefebvre continued to ordain traditional priests and always maintained that the suspensions were illegitimate and invalid. It was this action, much more than in 1988, that one can claim that Lefebvre saved the Mass, in a manner of speaking (Our Lord is Sovereign and responsible for all good). He died without knowing whether his position would be vindicated.

You could say that it is 1976 again for traditional societies and institutes previously under the Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei. The Vatican has said traditional priestly ordinations are no longer possible. The FSSP, ICRSP and others have lots of vocations and of course have ordinations scheduled this year. And some bishops, like the odious Cardinal Cupich, have forbidden even traditional societies from celebrating the traditional Mass on the first Sunday of every month and on high holy days, beginning February 6. A watershed moment awaits.

One thing you could say for the Vatican’s position in 1976 was that there was an uncontestedly legitimate pope who ordered Lefebvre to refrain from the traditional ordination of priests. The same cannot be said for 2022.

Even if Bergoglio were pope, his orders to block the traditional Mass and sacraments are just as invalid, assuming for a moment they were drafted in accordance with the law. His censures are equally invalid should they be issued for a priest, prelate or layman making use of his right to the Mass and Sacraments. Lastly, Bergoglio’s motives are so more obvious in their hatred for the Mass, the Sacraments, the faithful, and Him of Whom he claims to be vicar.

Fr. Laguerie of the IBP stated it very well that we must simply persevere in our lawful adherence to the traditional Mass and sacraments. That there must be a continuation of everything the traditional societies have been doing already. Father notes what lots of us sense— he hears of none of his confreres who will cave into the unjust forcing of the novus ordo onto traditional priests. The traditional laity have their back and will not betray faithful priests. There is a large traditional community.

We are in the right.

This is 1976. But really it isn’t. A Lefebvre moment is being forced on us in 2022. it starts in Chicago on February 6. It will occur worldwide by Midsummer. Let us remain faithful to Christ and to His sacraments. Let us respond with at least as much courage as Lefebvre showed in 1976.

This is the reality, whether Bergoglio or Pope Benedict XVI is pope. That question need not divide us nor cause us to waver. The prohibition against the Mass is invalid either way. But I would add this could very well be the perfect time to bring that question to a head for the good of souls. The time has come to acknowledge, and come to the aid of Pope Benedict XVI. That would save the Mass, and so much more.

Cantius Caves to Cupich

16 Sunday Jan 2022

Posted by thetimman in The Timless Roman Rite— the Real One

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Disappointing, but not surprising.

First Sunday of February is the first day, under the unlawful edict of the odious Cupich, that the novus ordo is illegally mandated in Chicago.

And the Canons of St. John Cantius have knuckled under. Instead of standing up for Christ and His Sacraments, they have determined to kowtow to this guy:

I urge readers to join in prayer that the Institute of Christ the King Sovereign Priest will stand firm. I expect them to.

They better stand firm… for all our sakes. But mostly for Christ the King.

Poll: I am a Catholic and If My Bishop Takes Away the Mass…

15 Saturday Jan 2022

Posted by thetimman in pope v. antipope, The Timless Roman Rite— the Real One

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A. I go to any available traditional Mass celebrated by a Catholic priest without hesitation.

B. I go to any available traditional Mass celebrated by a Catholic priest without hesitation.

C. I go to any available traditional Mass celebrated by a Catholic priest without hesitation.

D. All of the above.

Answer in the combox.

This Must Simply Be Defied

27 Monday Dec 2021

Posted by thetimman in General Catholic News/Opinion, pope v. antipope, the Institute, the Mass and other Liturgy, the real, The Timless Roman Rite— the Real One, we’re beeped

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Cardinal Cupich in Chicago has issued a diktat that purports to prohibit the Traditional Mass throughout the Archdiocese of Chicago on the first Sunday of the Month, during Triduum, and at Christmas. He demands a scad of other restrictions on the Mass, sacraments, priests and faithful. Actual document here. Fr. Z analyzes it in a good post at his blog.

To all the dear readers out there who used to like to say that I am too likely to jump the gun on things that may never happen, can I assume that you see that, now, THIS IS IT. THIS IS HAPPENING. ONE OF THE WORST OF THE MANY HORRIBLE BISHOPS INFESTING THE CHURCH IS TRYING TO ELIMINATE THE CELEBRATION OF THE TRADITIONAL MASS FOR ABOUT 1/4 OF THE YEAR,, AND ALSO ON OUR HIGHEST HOLY DAYS. NOT TO MENTION AXING THE OTHER TRADITIONAL SACRAMENTAL FORMS.

There is only one Catholic way to respond to this anti-Catholic, anti-Christ, invalid and illegal “policy”.

DEFY THIS POLICY AT EVERY STEP AND RESIST HIM TO HIS FACE.

Let us reiterate our premises, so that one can clearly see the consequences of letting these people get away with outrage after outrage, hoping it will somehow all work out:

  1. Pope St. Pius V in Quo Primum guaranteed the right of every priest in the Roman Rite to celebrate the TLM; he stated that nobody could force a priest to do otherwise. He guaranteed the faithful, therefore, the right to assist at this Mass, which he prohibited anyone from attempting to abrogate. Ever. He made Quo Primum perpetual.
  2. The TLM cannot be abrogated due to its antiquity alone which, aside from more theological considerations best left to theologians, gives the priests and faithful the right to it by force of law.
  3. The non-abrogation of the TLM was confirmed by Pope Benedict XVI in Summorum Pontificum and its accompanying instruction letter. Note he did not exercise any act of power to “resurrect” the TLM, he merely confirmed a preexisting fact.
  4. If no Pope can abrogate the TLM, then no antipope can abrogate it, and no bishop or cardinal can do so either.
  5. Moreover, even if a real pope could abrogate the TLM, no bishop or cardinal on his own could do it.
  6. Furthermore, even if a real pope could abrogate the TLM, and even if a real pope issued Traditionis Custodes, the hate-ball that is Traditionis Custodes did not abrogate the TLM because of the incompetence of its writers, who failed to use the type of specific legal language necessary under canon law in order to take the extraordinary step of abrogating laws established via immemorial custom.

All of the above leads to the following conclusion regarding Cardinal Cupich’s new policy: IT IS COMPLETELY INVALID AND ILLEGAL. IT DOESN’T BIND. IT DOESN’T MATTER. IT MUST BE DEFIED.

There is no indication in the policy that it does not apply to Societies of Apostolic Life or other groups whose charter grants them the right to the TLM. In the policy document itself, it states that priests who request permission to celebrate the TLM in the Archdiocese of Chicago must include “a statement of agreement to abide by the norms set forth in this document” and also states that “in the churches oratories, or chapels” in which there are already groups celebrating the TLM, the priest ministering to these groups can request to continue this practice “except for the days noted”.

Oh, and by the way, all other traditional sacraments are out. Case-by-case exceptions can be requested, but not for ordinations or confirmations.

It is no coincidence that Bergoglio’s favorite toady in the U.S. is issuing this, and it is no coincidence that the U.S. headquarters of the Institute of Christ the King Sovereign Priest is located in Chicago. How will they respond to this outrage to Christ the King? People have speculated for years about what would happen when the Ecclesia Dei communities were pushed over a line that could not be crossed, consistent with their charisms. We may soon find out.

As an aside, I don’t see how, without pointing to Quo Primum, the Canons Regular of St. John Cantius (which celebrates both the TLM and N.O. in their beautiful church in Chicago) can celebrate the TLM on the proscribed days. Their reaction will be most interesting. I am not hopeful, but would be glad to post how wrong I was should they hold the line.

Finally, and this is only my opinion, but I believe this attack on the TLM and the Sacraments is an existential crisis for the TLM communities. A present crisis. Here, now, taking place in Chicago but affecting the whole, long before any Bergoglio thug comes to “visit”. If the faithful who desire the ancient Mass aren’t given it by one group, they will go elsewhere as long as there is an “elsewhere”. If there is no “elsewhere”, those who would be willing to assist at the N.O. would likely go to the closest halfway-decent parish near them. If these groups will not ordain their priests according to the traditional forms, then their vocations will likely also dry up. To put it mildly, it may be hard for a group without charism, priests, faithful, or money to exist.

Yes, Bergoglio and his cabal know this very well. If he is not stopped, these groups will cease to exist. Whether this occurs by unjust discipline and censures, or by the abandonment of their charism hardly matters.

Cardinal Burke has splendidly led by example in the wake of Traditionis Custodes by publicly celebrating the TLM. It sends a visible message that people will rally around. I pray His Eminence will continue to lead by ordaining priests in the traditional ritual. I think it only takes one Cardinal, or perhaps a few bishops, to render this attack a dead letter.

If any of the former Ecclesia Dei communities simply ignores the invalid orders of this anti-Catholic cabal and just– simply, resolutely– celebrates the Mass of the Ages as before, it would render this attack a dead letter.

Please, dear Catholic priests and bishops, stand!

Our Lady of Fatima, pray for us!

You Know What I Did Today?

20 Monday Dec 2021

Posted by thetimman in pope v. antipope, The Timless Roman Rite— the Real One

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I spent every waking moment up to now not caring about, thinking about, being scared of, or consenting to the wicked provisions of those garbage dubia responses from the Bergoglian junta.

In other words, I gave them all the weight they deserve.

Sorting through Fetid Garbage for the Half-eaten Eclair [Update: It Ain’t There]

18 Saturday Dec 2021

Posted by thetimman in papacy, pope v. antipope, the Institute, the Mass and other Liturgy, the real, The Timless Roman Rite— the Real One

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By now you have no doubt heard of the excrement-on-paper from the Bergoglian mockery of the Congregaation for Divine Worship that attempts to kill the traditional Sacraments. I wrote on the useful response to such a poo-flinging here.

Well, like George Costanza finding something edible in the trash can, one thing worth noting, assuming we all pretend this document has any authority whatsoever (HINT: IT DOESNT):

These dubia responses (oh, the irony!) issued by the CDW do not apply to the traditional societies or personal parishes. [UPDATE: Well, it does in part. In my eagerness to deplore the execrable document, I failed in my legal training to read carefully. The sacraments in the Pontificale Romanum are putatively not allowed to be celebrated, but one ones in the Rituale are. In short, confirmation and ordination are putatively unavailable. But, as said before, this document and the other fecally loaded missive of Bergoglio himself are both illegal and invalid and must be resisted. We are allowed and required to resist them under Natural Law, canon law, and by the love we owe to Christ’s indefectible Church and to His Vicar on earth. The time to stand is now. So armageddon awaits yet another day. But let’s not kid ourselves, Bergoglio’s diabolical pansy cabal will come for us soon enough.

And when they do they will have just as much authority as they do now.

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