OK, I have said before that the question of the identity of the Holy Father is of waaaaay more importance to the average Catholic than the “above my paygrade/keep my head down and try to get to heaven” contingent lets on. Getting it right is the key to unraveling the disaster of heresy and tyranny that has been promoted for the last nine years. It is the key to defense of the Mass and Sacraments.
And it is the key to the conversion of Russia, as our Lady of Fatima promised she would bring about after the Holy Father consecrates Russia to Mary’s Immaculate Heart in union with the Bishops of the world.
CAN YOU STILL TELL ME IT DOESN’T MATTER WHO IS POPE?
The consecration of Russia to Mary’s Immaculate Heart will be the solution to all of the evil, satanical forces that have made, are making, and will further make, a kind of hell on earth. She will triumph. It is our deliverance.
But the consecration of Russia to Mary’s Immaculate Heart by an antipope, even if —ahem— it were done in good faith, could be an occasion of the loss of faith of millions and perhaps even despair, should this consecration not be satisfactory. I’m not Our Lady, but one would think this type of consecration would not suffice by a long shot. Again, I claim zero knowledge or authority to decide that; I’m just thinking out loud here.
It is not hard to imagine that, when this consecration is made, if the conversion of Russia does not happen and a period of peace does not ensue, many may lose their confidence in Fatima, their confidence in the Church, or perhaps just lose their faith entirely. You know– a distilled and immediate version of what has happened by slow drip from 1962-2022.
On the other hand, perhaps Our Lady, in the plan of God’s holy Providence, has decided to show a definitive proof of the identity of the Pope. If Bergoglio consecrates Russia and it works, maybe he really is pope. Mea culpa from me. But if he does his consecration and nothing good happens, would that by itself be enough to confirm the Benedict is still Pope? We shall see.
Only the Pope could have answered the dubia. Only the pope can consecrate Russia according to Mary’s request.
If Cardinal Burke, or any Cardinal for that matter, or any active Bishop, or perhaps Archbishop Vigano, could see his way to address at last the identity of the Pope publicly, please? Not that it is strictly speaking relevant to the question of whether the putative abdication was valid, but it could really help to strengthen those Catholics who are left.
Our Lady of Fatima, pray for us!
Over/under that Bergoglio ACTUALLY attempts to consecrate Russia to, say, a certain demon?
Not going to follow you there.
But I wish I could say it was literally impossible.
Hard to believe comment. Nevertheless, it is really thought provoking and a sign of the times. Is he an anti pope? The signs are surely there.
Oh shoot, I’ll take that bet easily…I don’t think there’s any other possibility. This is the demonic clown who put the pachamama demon offering ON THE ALTAR of St. Peter’s for MASS. Almost a guarantee he’s going to phrase it along the lines of, “to our great spiritual mother”….and we ALL know to whom he’ll be referring.
buckle up.
if all the bishops participate, then that means pope Benedict participates and then valid if he is the pope.
I read that somewhere else today. Makes sense to me, as long as consecration meets the other requirements. I will pray for that. Confidence level in Bergoglio: zero. Confidence in Our Lady: total.
Such clarity could only come from the gift of much grace. Deo gratias.
Unless the chair is vacant, if Benedict and all of the bishops consecrated Russia (using a valid formula) as well, perhaps that would cover all the bases.
Yet another “consecration” that does not follow Heaven’s explicit instructions would, indeed to terrible harm to the remnant.
Thank you for standing up on this.
We need EXPLICIT verification of two things:
1. The ACTUAL text that is to be used.
2. EXPLICIT verification of whether it is to be done in union with all bishops.
If the text does not explicitly CONSECRATE RUSSIA and is not done in union with all bishops it is yet again invalid.
We (as laity) in this case do not even have to examine the implications of all the murkiness surrounding Bergoglio.
…and if the Conversion of Russia does not follow this Consecration (but instead, Russia invades Western Europe?) – and let’s imagine Francis has ordered all the Diocesan Bishops to make the same Consecration in their Cathedrals – would this lead to the Modernists trumpeting the failure of Fatima saying “see, we told you all this Fatima mumbo jumbo was just the wild imaginings of ignorant children…now let’s get to work on ‘the great reset’ and look! here’s a man with the solution for peaceful coexistence”….Antichrist?
How many nominally catechized Catholics would fall for this and join the “One World Religion”?
First of all, only a true pope can do this. Bergoglio is not the pope.
I don’t believe he’s Pope but, at any rate, even if he were he’s not doing it in conjunction with all the bishops of the world as Our Lady instructed so it will amount to nothing, it will prove nothing.
Just another Bergoglian stunt.
One cannot be the head of a body of which one is not a member.
Popes must be Catholic. As a pertinacious and public heretic—indeed the most public heretic in the history of the world—Jorge Bergoglio is manifestly not Catholic. (Baptism is a necessary but insufficient condition of Church membership; one must also hold the actual Catholic Faith (see Mystici corporis, Pope Pius XII)). Jorge Bergoglio’s pertinacious and public heresy has automatically (ipso facto) expelled him from the Church and thus the papacy (assuming he ever held this office at all). Thus Jorge Bergoglio is not an actual pope.
Bergoglio isn’t pope, and not because of any electoral irregularities. He isn’t pope because he isn’t Catholic.
Note that no juridical authority is needed to come to this conclusion, any more than one need be a traffic judge to recognize the reality of one speeding at 100mph in front of his face. The later conviction by the traffic judge will simply be a legal recognition of the actual fact which already occurred. Similarly, any future legal declaration regarding Jorge Bergoglio’s anti-papacy will simply be a ratification of the current reality spitting in our faces daily.
It’s time to accept this reality, no matter how uncomfortable.
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I just now read in a comment section somewhere that the proposed text merely mentions Russia but actually consecrates only Ukraine. They would be fully consistent with Modernist trickery.
It appears someone involved in this event may be smart enough to realize that there are clear criteria by which the validity of the consecration may be evaluated.
It could be considered that if the validity criteria are widely known and applied — to the detriment of the perception of the validity of the event — that wide understanding of the invalid nature of the event would undermine any mischief that might be trigger.
This news this Friday morning:
https://insidethevatican.com/news/newsflash/letter-50-2022-thurs-mar-17-all-the-bishops/
The number one criteria: a validly elected Pope
This is all theater. A complete sham. By the way, he isn’t pope not because of any electoral issues, but because he isn’t Catholic.
… I think most who contend Bergoglio isn’t pope, like Barnhardt et al., do so because we believe Benedict not to have validly resigned. Bergoglio’s heresy is irrelevant to the question, but (in a sense) welcome because it does clarify the situation.
I’m not big on speculating about headaches I may or may not have land on my lap. I’m more a burn that bridge when we get to it kind of girl. But it’s looking like we may be moving onto that bridge…
We need a copy of the actual text.
Verification of the Inside the Vatican story
https://catholicfamilynews.com/blog/2022/03/17/breaking-apostolic-nuncio-alerts-u-s-bishops-to-upcoming-consecration-of-russia-and-ukraine-says-pope-francis-intends-to-invite-them-to-join/
For 20 yrs I’ve prayed for my memory to improve, thinking maybe my prayers weren’t to be answered. Then it occurred to me how bad it might be already if I hadn’t prayed at all. The point is we have no idea how bad it could get, or may have been if the pope did not do this consecration. Once again we are asked to trust God that what follows the consecration is for our best. Also, a thought to consider, what if God, foreseeing that Russia will take over the world, asked for their conversion so the world is ruled under a Christian Russia and not an atheist Russia. The submission of the west to Russia may be what is required for our conversion.